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Old 03-14-2007, 04:50 PM   #16
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Exactly what I was going to say. Also, GP shift is only "better" in sense where it makes it a lot easier to grab an upshift while leaned over to the right. All you have to do is tap down instead of trying to reach under. I personally kept to standard shift.
I was going to keep my bikes in the standard shift pattern as well, then I bought the TZ250 which has the GP shift pattern.
I will be changing the TLR to GP shift and spending the first couple of track days trying to get used to it. I can't see trying to run bikes in GP and standars shift patterns on the track, could lead to some trouble on the small bike. Mis-shifting on the TLR is less of a problem.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:53 PM   #17
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Exactly what I was going to say. Also, GP shift is only "better" in sense where it makes it a lot easier to grab an upshift while leaned over to the right. All you have to do is tap down instead of trying to reach under. I personally kept to standard shift.

I think you mean left
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:53 PM   #18
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It'd be nice if dealer's offered an option (free or perhaps $20 extra for the linkage) of standard or GP shift (kinda like automatic or standard in your car?) when u purchased a bike off the lot...Riding track these days, I wish I learned GP shift from the get go, then I'd be using it now. But I am so used to standard shift now that I keep with it on the track.

If I road track only or if my ST1100 street bike could be converted I'd give it a shot. :p
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:55 PM   #19
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Both of u are right..left & right. When on a Right hand turn, if u have short legs it may be diffucult to reach under the shifter to grab an upshift. And when you are on a left hand turn, it may be difficult to get your foot under the shifter without dragging your boot.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:57 PM   #20
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It's not really all that difficult to learn, at least not for me. I rode for 15 years with standard shift before I ever tried GP. Switched it on my 1K and was used to it in about 10 minutes (helps to have a gear indicator while practicing).

Hopped on my friends RC51 with standard and was able to adjust again no problem. Not as hard as you might think, just takes a few miles to reacclimate.
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:11 PM   #21
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I think you mean left
No, I meant right. Hanging off the right side of the bike while in a right turn, I barely have the ball of my left foot on the left peg. If I wanted to grab an upshift I'd have to reach under the shift lever. I just make sure to get all my shifting done ahead of time, lol.
For me making sure I have a positive down shift for panic situations seems better for me.
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:16 PM   #22
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well if its not as easy to adjust back and forth SPL, then perhaps I'll give it a shot during the season, just not this first trackday on a new bike and first time back on the track since my accident. thx. for the info.
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:31 PM   #23
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:45 PM   #24
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Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. And yes Bster, definately practice during some downtime. In the heat of battle you'll likely get overwhelmed and forget if it's your first time with your mind concentrating on that track.
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Also, just because its better on the track doesnt mean its better on the street. They are two very different riding environments and involve different techniques. You can't justify something being better on the street just because its done on the track.

The bottom line is street bikes have generally always been 1 downthe rest up, and there really is no extraordinary reason to change it. The situations where its "better" on the track are situations most people should never be in, on the street.
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The bottom line is street bikes have generally always been 1 downthe rest up
Along with dirtbikes, quads, ATC's, it is what it is.
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I did the switch on my street and track bike a probably about a year ago and if you decide to do this like SPL said.....you will fuck up once you are in a situation where you can't think and have to react on muscle memory and with that you will accidently downshift instead of upshift or vice versa....it has happened to me and it will happen to you.
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:12 PM   #28
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No, I meant right. Hanging off the right side of the bike while in a right turn, I barely have the ball of my left foot on the left peg. If I wanted to grab an upshift I'd have to reach under the shift lever. I just make sure to get all my shifting done ahead of time, lol.
For me making sure I have a positive down shift for panic situations seems better for me.
Isnt that becasue youre short

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