MTA Transit Strike SUCKS

[High_Revs_17]

The strike is illegal as of court rule, unions are getting a $1,000,000 fine for every day they continue to strike cuz the city of NY is losing hundres of millions already. Their timing is perfect leverage for their cause being just before one of the busiest times of the year, and a MTA employee still makes more than the average New Yorker...this strike is going nowhere and nobody wins.

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by High_Revs_17

The strike is illegal as of court rule, unions are getting a $1,000,000 fine for every day they continue to strike cuz the city of NY is losing hundres of millions already. Their timing is perfect leverage for their cause being just before one of the busiest times of the year, and a MTA employee still makes more than the average New Yorker...this strike is going nowhere and nobody wins.

The MTA Employees are also getting fined seperatly as well, 25,000 a day!

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Kennedy

The MTA Employees are also getting fined seperatly as well, 25,000 a day!

The union workers are being docked two days pay for every strike day -- the $25K is being fined against the TWU per member. You can bet your ass that I'd break the picket line if I was being fined $25K a day...

[Cakes206]

Originally Posted by Vin

You can bet your ass that I'd break the picket line if I was being fined $25K a day...

Not if you value your life...union workers on strike don't play...ppl who cross pay a price...sad but true.

[carl_g]

Unions are stupid.. good for lazy mofos that is about it

[Marcmcm]

Amen to that one. Unions served a purpose 100 years ago but anymore they just protect the lazy. The union successfully killed Caterpillar in York, PA and put a couple thousand out of work. That probably won't happen in NYC though.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Cakes

Not if you value your life...union workers on strike don't play...ppl who cross pay a price...sad but true.

I was being facetious.

[High_Revs_17]

UPS management has been at war with the Teamsters for decades, they regret every letting them in and now there's nothing they can do about it. I worked for UPS for 2 years while I was in college and I was a part of the strike they had at that time. Like Cakes said, you really don't have a choice unless you want your fellow workers to turn their backs on you after it's all over, it could get ugly real quick. And you wouldn't believe the shit that goes on in there between supervisors (non-union) and shopstewards, they all but nearly kill eachother at certain times, and that's a good day when OSHA doesn't show up unexpectedly.

[Cakes206]

Originally Posted by High_Revs_17

UPS management has been at war with the Teamsters for decades, they regret every letting them in and now there's nothing they can do about it. I worked for UPS for 2 years while I was in college and I was a part of the strike they had at that time. Like Cakes said, you really don't have a choice unless you want your fellow workers to turn their backs on you after it's all over, it could get ugly real quick. And you wouldn't believe the shit that goes on in there between supervisors (non-union) and shopstewards, they all but nearly kill eachother at certain times, and that's a good day when OSHA doesn't show up unexpectedly.

UPS stands for Under Paid Slaves...God I hated that job

[carl_g]

UPS is a bunch of jerk fuck faces!

[High_Revs_17]

Originally Posted by Cakes

UPS stands for Under Paid Slaves

For only working 20 hours a week the full benefits, paid holidays and 3 weeks vacation time were nice perks. But they did work ya hard...a 100 degree warehouse during the summer cuts the body fat real quick, I have to say I was in the best shape of my life when I worked there though.

[jcblitz]

Originally Posted by Cakes

Not if you value your life...union workers on strike don't play...ppl who cross pay a price...sad but true.

My girlfriends grandfather was killed because he crossed a picket line. They dropped his body on his front door step. The guy had 8 children and a wife to feed, so they killed them because they wanted an extra nickel a week for booze. I've always hated unions, and when she told me that story I hate them even more. It's racketeering at it's worst and instead of being called a "crime syndicate", it's just called "local 102" or whatever.

[soda7o]

Originally Posted by jcblitz

My girlfriends grandfather was killed because he crossed a picket line. They dropped his body on his front door step. The guy had 8 children and a wife to feed, so they killed them because they wanted an extra nickel a week for booze. I've always hated unions, and when she told me that story I hate them even more. It's racketeering at it's worst and instead of being called a "crime syndicate", it's just called "local 102" or whatever.

thats fucked up!

and liek some one mentioned raises come form good performance the workers did not make that surplus it was contributed by the tax payers
form the ny daily news...


"Surplus: The MTA has always been a wizard at making money disappear, but it entered contract talks showing a surplus of $1 billion. The union bosses saw the pile and dreamed of getting some, to the tune of 8% annual raises. That's a laughable demand, and they compounded their mistake by claiming such big hikes were earned because the workers created the surplus.

Not true. In fact, that honor goes to taxpayers. They shelled out hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes to subsidize the MTA. Portions of two fairly obscure state taxes - the mortgage recording tax and the property transfer tax - are dedicated to the MTA, and both turned in far higher than expected collections because of the real estate boom.

Another contributor is the sales tax, with one-eighth of a penny in the city going to trains and buses. Altogether, higher tax income provided $733 million, or 70% of the surplus. Lower interest rates saved the agency an additional $170 million, or 17%, according to the state controller's office. Still, the union will get a huge chunk of the surplus. Almost half - $450 million - is being spent on pensions and it was offered salary hikes of 10.5% over three years.

Unborn: Sometimes it seemed union head Roger Toussaint had ventured into the abortion debate when he said the MTA wanted him to "sell out the unborn." He chose that loaded word to reject sensible demands that future workers contribute more to the cost of their benefits.

Here are the facts: Health and pension costs threaten to bankrupt government just as much as they do auto manufacturers and airlines. MTA officials say those costs have tripled in recent years and that pension spending hit $453 million last year. Costs are expected to keep rising and are a large part of projected deficits in 2007 and 2008.

The agency is right to shift some of the burden to workers, just as many private companies have, with one difference: Benefits for current workers are untouched. The MTA offered options - later retirement, longer service, greater contributions - all applying only to future employees. Each time the union said no. One labor leader called that stance "an ideology."

Like most ideologies, it ignores reality and brings its own pain. Thanks to the Taylor Law, its followers face big penalties.
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[tommymac]

Originally Posted by High_Revs_17

UPS management has been at war with the Teamsters for decades, they regret every letting them in and now there's nothing they can do about it. I worked for UPS for 2 years while I was in college and I was a part of the strike they had at that time. Like Cakes said, you really don't have a choice unless you want your fellow workers to turn their backs on you after it's all over, it could get ugly real quick. And you wouldn't believe the shit that goes on in there between supervisors (non-union) and shopstewards, they all but nearly kill eachother at certain times, and that's a good day when OSHA doesn't show up unexpectedly.

I was there for that strike too ( 11 miserable years there) I actualy had a lot of fun we were out drinking beers and barbecuing every night, after a while the cops started hanging out with us too and would bring burgers and stuff.

Tom

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by ism409

UPS is a bunch of jerk fuck faces!

Now be nice I was one of them for way too long

Tom