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12-04-2005, 05:00 PM
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Cake Cop
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Just means you'll be braking more
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12-04-2005, 07:24 PM
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Heavy Thumbs
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Originally Posted by CoolerBig
So, from my understanding you basically don't bother to change plastics. You just disconnect electrical stuff and tape the lights. Correct? What if you crash? Then you will have to spend a lot of money on stock plastics and shit like that...
I don't think tires are a big deal for me. At this point I am just starting my track days. So, I won't be going fast for a while. Need to learn a lot. So, I am planning on using Michelin PP for the street and the track.
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my bike is half faired TL1000S and I already crashed once with it so my stock plastics are my street plastics. For a full faired bike you will still have to pay a nice piece of change for track plastics so itsa all a wash anyway. ( Plus I have an unpainted set I bught for 250 bucks) And if thats the case add another 20 to 30 minutes to swap the plastics.
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12-04-2005, 07:26 PM
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I like the way this guy thinks.
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I am sure his credit card company does too
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12-04-2005, 07:47 PM
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I am sure his credit card company does too
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Don't use plastic that much. You pay twice when you abuse credit cards.
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12-04-2005, 07:54 PM
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Just means you'll be braking more
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I can't agree.
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12-04-2005, 10:23 PM
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"We got a runner!"
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Originally Posted by High_Revs_17
The 10 is not overkill for any track, maybe for the rider but it's up to he/she to learn the bike's full potential...it was made for the track. It is overkill on the street.
If he wants a secondary bike for the street he should pick up a 600 being even most 600's are more than enough for the street and his fuel mileage and ins. rates will be much better.
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Like I said...MOST will agree that it's overkill. Especially those of us who've actually been on a track
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12-04-2005, 10:37 PM
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Like I said...MOST will agree that it's overkill. Especially those of us who've actually been on a track
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I was gonna be that guy...see that is why we are a good team.. :wave2:
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12-04-2005, 10:40 PM
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I was gonna be that guy...see that is why we are a good team.. :wave2:
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So do I get to still be on the team if I downgrade from a 1000 to a 750. I even promise I will make sure it doesnt leak and will wash it once in a while
Tom
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12-04-2005, 10:42 PM
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"We got a runner!"
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So do I get to still be on the team if I downgrade from a 1000 to a 750. I even promise I will make sure it doesnt leak and will wash it once in a while
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downgrade? don't you mean upgrade?
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12-04-2005, 10:53 PM
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Ducaddilac
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Originally Posted by CoolerBig
I can't agree.
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I'm with Kennedy and Jimmy here -- have you been to the track yet?
My line of thinking is that a bigger bike is going to carry bigger speed into a corner, hence the need to brake more.
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12-04-2005, 11:23 PM
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Heavy Thumbs
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downgrade? don't you mean upgrade?
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You know what I mean
heres some tenative costs/expenses to worry about in doing a trackday a week
150 dollars or more since one would need to join a few different orginazitions to do that
150 or so for trackday registration per event
Costs for all the necessary gear ( depends on what you still need) head to toe will cost up around 2 grand for good equipment
Gas, food, tolls and lodging per event, this can get pricey. For my trip to beaver run I paid 120+ just for gas since I went by myself
Trailer and a vehicle to pull it ( although most cars could pull the smaller one bike trailers)
Parts and maintenance. Even though its less miles you should be doing more frequent oil changes, tires, brake pads, and other assorted parts that will wind up breaking
And theres the expenses for the misceleaneous creature comforts, ez ups folding chairs etc......
So trust us in this stuff adds up quickly
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12-04-2005, 11:38 PM
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The Solution
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Originally Posted by CoolerBig
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Originally Posted by High_Revs_17
The 10 is not overkill for any track, maybe for the rider but it's up to he/she to learn the bike's full potential...it was made for the track. It is overkill on the street.
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I agree 100%. It's the rider who makes that difference.
As for the street...Well, I enjoy it. I tried ZX6R and I didn't like it. Mileage? Not a big deal.
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Street and track riding are totally different. On the track you're always in the revs...always...and when you aren't, you're on the brakes...and with that 10 you'll be on the brakes alot(as mentioned.) It never fails...(mainly white and red group)the liter bikes go down the strait like at Summit Point Main, get to brake markers and boom...they're parkin it for T1...and those who come in waaay to hot go off the track testing out the kitty litter. IMHO, get a 600 for the track...hell even an sv650 like I got...72hp and its fun as hell passing liter bikes in the turns.
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12-05-2005, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy
Especially those of us who've actually been on a track
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out what I was refering to regarding the overall performance of the 10. It's a total package that has the power of a liter bike which handles like a 600. More power can be compensated with larger/better brakes & lines, you guys should know this, being you've actually been to the track.
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On the track you're always in the revs...always...and when you aren't, you're on the brakes...and with that 10 you'll be on the brakes alot(as mentioned.) It never fails...(mainly white and red group)the liter bikes go down the strait like at Summit Point Main, get to brake markers and boom...they're parkin it for T1...and those who come in waaay to hot go off the track testing out the kitty litter. IMHO, get a 600 for the track...hell even an sv650 like I got...72hp and its fun as hell passing liter bikes in the turns.
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You're speaking of rider ability not bike ability regarding white & red groups, doesn't seem to be much mention of this in Blue or GP. You don't see pros making many mistakes on liter bikes, why? cuz they know how to ride the bike.
My point from the beginning is that given a capable rider I'm sure the 10 will will not have a problem eating up 600's all day long. When the engineers at Kawi R&D designed that bike they did so with a strong spirit of the track in mind, not a lazy Sunday rider.
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12-05-2005, 12:07 AM
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Let the pissing match begin...
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12-05-2005, 12:09 AM
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Ducaddilac
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Originally Posted by High_Revs_17
You don't see pros making many mistakes on liter bikes, why? cuz they know how to ride the bike.
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And your average track-day attendee is no pro. Hence the 600 comments.
Mind you, I ride a literbike, but it's a twin with HP specs on par with recent 600's. Granted it has almost double the torque... but that's a different story.
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