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02-14-2007, 10:54 AM
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Burnout
tsxguy77 is offline
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Location: Central Jersey
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Just registered for the free MSF course that New Jersey offers!!!
So last year I wanted to take the MSF course but really didnt have the cash, and then I found out that New Jersey offers a free 3 day course, bike included! But you can only call in once a week for a period of 3.5 hours to schedule an appointment for a later date, and last year I tried many attempts and I could never get through. It was very frustrating!
Anyway, Today is the first day they are starting scheduling again and I almost forgot about this thing until yesterday. So I called up and after 25 minutes on hold, I GOT THROUGH!
So now Im taking my class on March 30,31 & April 1st.
Here is the link for any other NJ riders.
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/..._safety.htm#a1
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02-14-2007, 10:55 AM
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sonny is offline
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Good class. Teaches you good fundamentals.
I took it. I want to do the Advanced Rider Class before I move to maryland..
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02-14-2007, 12:11 PM
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Tank Slapper
Retom7 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hyde Park, NY
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Damn, I wish it was free in NY... I spent like $250
Great course though, have fun!
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02-14-2007, 03:03 PM
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If/when you pass be sure to contact your auto & bike ins. co.'s cuz they might offer you a discount on your policy being this class is a state certified safety course.
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02-14-2007, 07:07 PM
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Tank Slapper
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hyde Park, NY
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I don't know if it's the same as NY, but after the NY course, it also count towards auto insurance... and points on your driver's license.
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02-15-2007, 09:06 AM
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CBRBob is offline
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Central NJ
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The class is the same across the country except Oregon. The reason it's free is that the state is stealing the $5 that is tacked onto every motorcycle license renewal to give only a few hundered riders a free class instead of reducing the cost of the class by at least $50 to EVERYONE that takes the class in NJ. So feel good that it's free because it's not, it's costing all of us some $$. I don't mind the $5. I do mind the state grabbing the money to run a class costing several times the going rate. It's like the $700 hammer you hear about.
Depending on your ins. carrier they MAY give you some discount. In NJ, if you take the ERC, they MUST give you a discount on your car ins. (bike carriers might not) and can take pts off your lic. because the ERC is considered a Defensive Driver Course.
www.renj.com
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02-15-2007, 11:14 AM
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Burnout
tsxguy77 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CBRBob
The reason it's free is that the state is stealing the $5 that is tacked onto every motorcycle license renewal to give only a few hundered riders a free class instead of reducing the cost of the class by at least $50 to EVERYONE that takes the class in NJ. So feel good that it's free because it's not, it's costing all of us some $$. I don't mind the $5. I do mind the state grabbing the money to run a class costing several times the going rate. It's like the $700 hammer you hear about.
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Well if its a $5 charge they tack onto license renewal, Thats great still because you only have to renew the license every 4 years, so if I ride a motorcycle for 40 years until I am 70 years old, I will only pay $5 every four years which is only $50 total for a class I would have paid about $250 for, so I dont know where you are getting that $700 hammer idea from.
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02-15-2007, 12:55 PM
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Location: Austin, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tsxguy77
Well if its a $5 charge they tack onto license renewal, Thats great still because you only have to renew the license every 4 years, so if I ride a motorcycle for 40 years until I am 70 years old, I will only pay $5 every four years which is only $50 total for a class I would have paid about $250 for, so I dont know where you are getting that $700 hammer idea from.
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*YOU* may have only paid $50 in your lifetime, but maybe 1 in every 25 rider in the state of NJ can even take the class (limited availability). so you multiply that $50 those 25 riders have paid throughout their lifetime and you are actually up to $1250 per per person that the state receives. Of course not everybody has their license for 40 years, but chances are the 1:25 ratio is also closer to 1:100....
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02-15-2007, 12:58 PM
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Burnout
tsxguy77 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ffejtable
*YOU* may have only paid $50 in your lifetime, but maybe 1 in every 25 rider in the state of NJ can even take the class (limited availability). so you multiply that $50 those 25 riders have paid throughout their lifetime and you are actually up to $1250 per per person that the state receives. Of course not everybody has their license for 40 years, but chances are the 1:25 ratio is also closer to 1:100....
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Oh well, not my problem. Anyone can take it if they want to. Just gotta be patient and make some phone calls. So anyway, the most *I* will pay for this is $50 and thats awesome! Everything else is irrelevant to me.
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02-15-2007, 11:25 PM
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CBRBob is offline
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Oh well, not my problem.
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Yea, so when your tax bill doubles next year don't bitch because we all have to pay in. Thats the mentality that puts asswipes like Corzine in power. Having the govt. run this is just what we DON'T need. It costing riders several times the amt. the going rate and people saying its free. Signing up for welfare anytime soon?
Hey it's no $ out of my pocket, I can't teach enough to keep up with the demand. I just want you to know that the class is in no way free and free does not always = good.
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02-15-2007, 11:19 AM
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That's cool that it's so cheap for you guys, even WITH the catch where you're technically paying for it..
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02-15-2007, 12:55 PM
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Burnout
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Well yeah. But anything the state/government does for us, we have to pay for. Thats what taxes are for. So it is really cool that NJ does this for everyone that is lucky enough to get through on the phone lines. I tried for a few months last season. No lie, I was on hold for the limit, because after an hour or so I would get a message to try and call back again. It was so frustrating! But Im glad I beat the rush this year.
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02-15-2007, 01:27 PM
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Tank Slapper
liquiddevil2000 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: clermont fl.
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this is getting too technical for me...
i dotn care..i got a florida license and took the calss down there for free..lol
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02-15-2007, 10:15 PM
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Learner's Permit
Technochick is offline
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by liquiddevil2000
this is getting too technical for me...
i dotn care..i got a florida license and took the calss down there for free..lol
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How did you take the class for free in FL? It cost me $170.
Well worth EVERY penny too!!
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02-16-2007, 11:15 AM
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A 37 Production
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Being uneducated of the facts makes you see the class is free. Xracer and I know the truth. We spend countless hours making our class better. Volunteering our time to keep the program going, taking weekends off to make the way we teach the class better, taking weekend off from riding to help people learn to ride. You have no idea the time and life we invest to do this. Then to have the govt throw it around like its nothing?
Competition? HAHAHAHAHA! Like we are threatened by the several dozen people that take the free course. Funny how we get dozens of failed participants from them every year saying how much they wished they would have paid the $225 in the first place. Remember, this is a fee we all pay to REDUCE the cost of the class to EVERYONE who takes it. The govt. basically stole the piggybank to give a free class to a few. Dosent make sense, does it. Then again, its the govt running the class.
Like I already said, you are not taking my business away, I cant teach enough to satisfy demand. I wish everyone who wants to ride would take a class like this. The problem is when its 'free', every MOMO and their brother tries to sign up. When it rains they dont show, why? Its raining! Hell why should they get wet? They didnt invest anything to be there. Or they went out partying sat night and woke up with a headache, hell, they will just try and sign up for 'free' again. Those 'free' spots could have been taken by people serious about the class. Paying for it makes for people serious about learning. I am not saying you arent serious about the class at all, thats the reality we see unfortunately.
Oh by the way........
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